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August 10, 2002
 
 
FEATURED CONVERSATION -- WALTER STARCK http://www.theconversation.org/c-walterstarck2.html#080102:
 
My favorite conversation continues.  We talk about beliefs versus knowing, and how and why America is as it is,  with an ever present thread of how crop circles are related to everything.  Here's Walter on that subject:
 
"The origins and intent of crop circles are simply not known. That they exist is verifiable. In view of all available evidence, human origination for most of them appears most unlikely. The designs reflect a high order of intelligence. Their method of formation is not explicable. Their context in terms of geography and human activities also seem meaningful. The hypothesis that they are messages to us from an intelligence other than our own is not unreasonable and even inescapable if one is to approach the issue with an open mind. If they are indeed messages from another intelligence, the implications are profound. They deserve our most careful and detailed consideration. Trying to deny them as petty hoaxes or confusing the issue with wild speculation or leaps into unfounded belief are unhelpful. 

"We need also be aware that trying to understand another and probably more advanced consciousness than our own by assuming motivations or aims similar to ours may be highly misleading. We are ill tempered primates who can't stand being alone but when together spend much of our time squabbling with one another. It is impossible to imagine a far more advanced technology in the hands of beings with a consciousness such as our own at present. To avoid self destruction, any truly advanced beings must have arrived at a far more benign state of being and broader awareness of self than our present one."
 
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CROP CIRCLE DIARY ENTRY:
 
With the release of "Signs," crop circles are all over the media, and I'm doing radio interviews regularly across the U.S. and in Canada. Although no media reports take the phenomenon seriously, I think that's to be expected.  It takes awhile to break down societal entrenchments. Just like resistance to the insanity of the political scene is developing, I believe the awareness of something inexplicable going on in the fields also will start to dawn. I'd like to help that along with a piece I've written, "WHAT IF CROP CIRCLES ARE A REAL PHENOMENON?" [http://www.mightycompanions.org/cropcircles/whatif.html], about why crop circles can't be human endeavor and why everyone should be paying attention to them. If you've read anything with a skeptical slant, to which this would be a response, please tell me where.
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COLUMN FROM GEOV PARRISH: Invasion on Autopilot: The Bush Wars and Public Dissent, Then and Now -- August 1, 2002
Full Column: http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?itemid=13634
 
Suzanne's comments: Here's the desperation report from Geov about the war that Bush is intent on having with Iraq. What to do? Geov says it's up to the people to oppose the power structure. That's us. Makes me yearn for some organized way to wield our power...??? "So far, media coverage, Senate hearings, and Pentagon and White House pronouncements have all been reinforcing one well-coordinated message: the necessity of an inevitably one-sided massacre. The bipartisan enthusiasm for it all has shut out the most basic question possible: whether we should be engaging in such mass murder."
 
Other quotes drawn from the column:
 
There is, in fact, no compelling reason of any sort to go to war against Iraq. The only recent development cited by the Bush Administration is the claim that Iraq is developing new "weapons of mass destruction." That claim that has consistently been considered patently absurd by the rest of the world, including a succession of United Nations officials charged with looking into such things...the only opposition being offered by our pathetic excuse for an "opposition" party has been logistical—when to invade, whether to rely first on air or ground assaults, who to replace Saddam with after we kill him...

But the breathtaking and seemingly universal American arrogance over this whole sad spectacle—all done while continuing to lecture the world on America's unique virtuousness—provides an endless variety of new answers as to why terrorists might hate us.

...questions won't be asked this week in Senator Biden's Strangelovefest hearings. Nobody's been invited who might ask them. That just leaves us. If our Foreign Relations Committee senators (and representatives, and reporters) are to hear any intelligent criticisms of this madness, they must come from you and me. Now. Today. Pick up the phone, pick up your pen—for goodness sakes, type, even. Deluge our policymakers with concerns, critiques, demands. The first demand is the simplest of all: have a real discussion of the pros and cons of launching a war against Iraq.
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COLUMN FROM GEOV PARRISH: Dubya's Finger on the Button: Hiroshima Provides Needed Reminders -- August 5, 2002
 
Suzanne's comments: The mind boggles at the quality of intelligence that's running a world with a nuclear capacity. Read about it here. What to do? What to do? "...we're not building missile systems—not to mention more fanciful weapons systems now under development, like the Airborne Laser—to defend ourselves from North Korea. We're doing it to pay off Dubya's and Dick Cheney's buddies in the defense industry (notice how Halliburton, despite the cloud of corporate scandal hovering above it, is pulling down all these lucrative NMD contracts of late?)." 
 
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And today, just as the Bush Administration pledges war against Iraq for no discernable reason—with but a few public official or mainstream commentator voices objecting—the warmongers and so-called chickenhawks surrounding Dubya are also vastly increasing America's nuclear arsenal for no apparent reason.

...even when September 11 showed that the United States mainland faced a far more grave and immediate danger from box cutters than from hypothetical missiles, NMD [National Missile Defense] proceeded apace, safely cocooned in the blank check being given the Pentagon...

If, in Ronald Reagan, we were worried that we had a Commander-in-Chief sufficiently stupid, arrogant, and detached from reality to use these weapons, George W. Bush doesn't exactly inspire confidence. But few people seem aware that he has the power to destroy the world instantly.
 
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COLUMN FROM ARIANNA HUFFINGTONHolding Dick Cheney "Accountable" -- August 5, 2002
 
Suzanne's comments: Why hasn't Cheney been talking to us? Get the lowdown on how indefensible his Halliburton actions have been -- with a side swipe at the parallel to Bush with Harken. These reports are at least easy to read, thanks to Arianna's blessedly entertaining style, but they still will make your blood boil. Woe is us. "Halliburton did end up giving a little something back to America -- in the form of $2 million worth of fines for consistently overbilling the Pentagon. In one case they charged $750,000 for work that actually cost them only $125,000. Despite all this, the company has continued to be awarded massive government contracts."
 
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Harken's offshore entity wasn't designed to evade taxes, explained [White House spokesman Dan] Bartlett, it was meant to enhance "tax competitiveness." And to his credit, Bartlett didn't even break out laughing after this claim...

White House press secretary Ari Fleischer even tried the ol' No Harm, No Foul defense, arguing that the reason Bush's company went Caribbean was a "moot question" because Harken never made any money on the Cayman venture. Memo to Fleischer: Arguing that the crime didn't pay isn't a defense...

Cheney's reluctance to talk to reporters is understandable, given what has been coming to light about his heretofore highly touted tenure at Halliburton, including the questionable accounting, the offshore subsidiaries, and the revelation that the company did business with Iran, Libya, and -- despite Cheney's denials -- Iraq. Call this his "Axis of Profits."
 
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OTHER ADDITIONS TO OUR QUOTES SECTION [http://www.theconversation.org/index.html#quotes]:
 
...here we are, poised on the slippery precipice of a pre-emptive war, without even the benefit of meaningful public debate. The constitutional crisis is so deep that it is not even noticed. The unilateralism of the Bush White House is an affront to the rest of the world, which is unanimously opposed to such an action.

...if America attacks and if Iraq truly possesses weapons of mass destruction, the feared risks are likely to materialize as Iraq and Saddam confront defeat and humiliation, and have little left to lose.

A real public debate is needed not only to revitalize representative democracy but to head off an unnecessary war likely to bring widespread death and destruction as well as heighten regional dangers of economic and political instability, encourage future anti-American terrorism and give rise to a US isolationism that this time is not of its own choosing!

We must ask why the open American system is so closed in this instance. How can we explain this unsavory rush to judgment, when so many lives are at stake? What is now wrong with our system, with the vigilance of our citizenry, that such a course of action can be embarked upon without even evoking criticism in high places, much less mass opposition in the streets?

The Rush to War
Richard Falk
http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20020819&s=falk
 
 
 
Spirit merges with matter to sanctify the universe. Matter transcends to return to spirit. The interchangeability of matter and spirit means the starlit magic of the outermost life of our universe becomes the soul-light magic of the innermost life of our self. The energy of the stars becomes us. We become the energy of the stars. Stardust and spirit unite and we begin: One with the universe. Whole and holy. From one source, endless creative energy, bursting forth, kinetic, elemental. We, the earth, air, water and fire-source of nearly fifteen billion years of cosmic spiraling...

As we aspire to universal brotherhood and sisterhood, we harken to the cry from the heart of the world and respond affirmatively to address through thought, word and deed conditions which give rise to conflict: Economic exploitation, empire building, political oppression, religious intolerance, poverty, disease, famine, homelessness, struggles over control of water, land, minerals, and oil.

Spirit and Stardust -- Praxis Peace Institute Conference Dubrovnik, Croatia, 6/9/2002
Dennis Kucinich
http://www.house.gov/kucinich/press/sp-020609-praxispeaceconf.htm

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FIVE STAR PIECE: The Logic of Empire, George Minbiot -August 6, 2002
 
Suzanne's comments:  This is a scathing piece, urging non-cooperation with the U.S. in an invasion of Iraq, from an award winning UK journalist who writes a weekly column in the "Guardian." "...the greatest threat to world peace is not Saddam Hussein, but George Bush. The nation that in the past has been our firmest friend is becoming instead our foremost enemy."

Other quotes drawn from the piece:
 
Since Bush came to office, the United States government has torn up more international treaties and disregarded more UN conventions than the rest of the world has in 20 years...

We can resist the US neither by military nor economic means, but we can resist it diplomatically. The only safe and sensible response to American power is a policy of non-cooperation. Britain and the rest of Europe should impede, at the diplomatic level, all US attempts to act unilaterally. We should launch independent efforts to resolve the Iraq crisis and the conflict between Israel and Palestine. And we should cross our fingers and hope that a combination of economic mismanagement, gangster capitalism and excessive military spending will reduce America's power to the extent that it ceases to use the rest of the world as its doormat.
 
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