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The Conversation.org
A Mighty Companions Project
Publisher: Suzanne Taylor
Los Angeles, CA, USA
TheConversation.org had its start when 9/11 dictated that we were in a new world. At this threshold moment for humanity, when we must choose wisely to avoid what could be our annihilation, this site is dedicated to tracking the emerging intelligence that we need for our very survival, and to conversation in which that intelligence can be forged.
Let those who see beyond the idea of force imposing world order, to where we look to heal the causes of despair, meet here.
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Outside The Box Ideas
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Society deals primarily with cosmetic change, no matter how threatened the world is. But, the way we think got us into the mess we are in, and, unless we grapple with paradigm change, it's fingers in the dike. For this column, send your thoughts about what outside the box ideas might contribute to setting us on a better course.
Look at this chilling story by the great British journalist, George Monbiot, about the recent UN Climate Change Conference in Copenhagen. It concludes:
"...we have to stop calling it climate change. Using 'climate change' to describe events like this, with their devastating implications for global food security, water supplies and human settlements, is like describing a foreign invasion as an unexpected visit, or bombs as unwanted deliveries. It's a ridiculously neutral term for the biggest potential catastrophe humankind has ever encountered. I think we should call it 'climate breakdown.'"
If we knew that without intervention the world would end at a finite date, humanity would dramatically scratch its collective head. Short of a deadline to save ourselves, what could we do that might change our course? Here are some of my thoughts.
1. My #1 idea is to investigate the crop circle phenomenon. If we knew there was other intelligence, which the circles indicate, we would be one humanity in relation to 'the other,’ working together to solve planetary problems.
2. Promote a change of paradigm where getting the most money as the primary goal would be replaced by doing the most good.
Make a brilliant ad campaign: "Whoever Does the Most Good Wins!"
3. Have revered states people look out from TV and address the human core in everyone, urging us to think as a planet to solve the challenges we face.
4. President calls for a moment of silence perhaps noon in every time zone, for everyone to stop what they are doing and focus on one thing -- try to harness the power of thought. England possibly avoided WWII invasion that way.
5. Call for a truce worldwide, where wars end -- via inducements, including a clean slate for everyone. Even terrorists. Promise everyone universal health care, universal education and job training, and whatever it would take to give everyone the fundamentals of a decent life. Pay for it with military budgets.
6. Give ecstasy to people we want info from -- turn evil people into heart-connected ones.
7. Use plants for vision, a la shamans who use psychedelic substances for guidance.
8. Convene a new Twilight Club. "The Twilight Club was an organization founded in the late 19th century, with the intention to counter the moral decline by bolstering up the spiritual and ethical awareness of the society. Illustrious members were Ralph Waldo Emerson, Herbert Spencer, Walt Whitman, Andrew Carnegie, Oliver Wendell Holmes, and Mark Twain...From this club, service clubs such as the Rotary Club and the Lions evolved."
Other things the Twilight Club gave rise to.
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BBC Complaints Department response re Rendlesham Radio Program
Makes you mad. Grrrr, Look at this exchange about what the BBC did re a famous UFO incident in England that the earmarks of being the real deal. This is from someone in England who has an interest in crop circles and in UFOs:
With reference to that controversial BBC ‘hitpiece’ on the Today
program which aroused so much criticism and discussion earlier
this month.
Like many, I wrote complaining how it was utterly biased and
made no effort to contact people actually involved in the
Rendlesham incident.
I have just received the following reply saying in effect,
“Yes it was meant to… be biased. ”
Here’s the actual BBC response:
“Thank you for your e-mail regarding the ‘Today’ programme
broadcast on 11 August.
“We forwarded complaints on this issue to Dominic Groves, one
of the output Editors for the ‘Today’ programme. He explained
in response that this was meant to be an impressionistic piece
describing how an avowed sceptic on these issues reacted when
placed at the scene of a well-known incident such as the one in
Rendlesham Forest.”
He further added, ”This was not intended to be, not did it claim
to be, an in-depth analysis of the rights and wrongs of that
particular case.
“Please be assured we’ve registered your complaint on our
audience log. This is a daily report of audience feedback that’s
circulated to many BBC staff, including members of the BBC
Executive Board, channel controllers and other senior managers.
“Thank you once again for taking the trouble to share your views
with us.
“Kind Regards
“BBC Audience Services”
So, there we have it. The show was meant to “describe how a sceptic
reacted” when placed in the Forest along with two other sceptics….
Surprise, surprise……he reacted……sceptically!
How fortunate we are to have the BBC to enlighten us in this way.
I would be interested in feedback from other people who complained
as to whether my reply from the BBC was a ’round robin’ or whether
we all got individual responses.
Dave Haith
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I am surprised to hear this about the BBC creating a biased news report. They show themselves to be misleading and now unreliable in their news stories. They just lost me as a viewer.