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Let those who see beyond the idea of force imposing world order, to where we look to heal the causes of despair, meet here.
Society deals primarily with cosmetic change, no matter how threatened the world is. But, the way we think got us into the mess we are in, and, unless we grapple with paradigm change, it's fingers in the dike. For this column, send your thoughts about what outside the box ideas might contribute to setting us on a better course.
Look at this chilling story by the great British journalist, George Monbiot, about the recent UN Climate Change Conference in Copenhagen. It concludes:
"...we have to stop calling it climate change. Using 'climate change' to describe events like this, with their devastating implications for global food security, water supplies and human settlements, is like describing a foreign invasion as an unexpected visit, or bombs as unwanted deliveries. It's a ridiculously neutral term for the biggest potential catastrophe humankind has ever encountered. I think we should call it 'climate breakdown.'"
If we knew that without intervention the world would end at a finite date, humanity would dramatically scratch its collective head. Short of a deadline to save ourselves, what could we do that might change our course? Here are some of my thoughts.
1. My #1 idea is to investigate the crop circle phenomenon. If we knew there was other intelligence, which the circles indicate, we would be one humanity in relation to 'the other,’ working together to solve planetary problems.
2. Florida’s St. Petersburg Times asked, "How Would You Fix the Economy?" Here's one answer:
Patriotic Retirement: There's about 40 million people over 50 in the work force; pay them $1 million apiece severance with stipulations:
1) They leave their jobs. Forty million job openings - Unemployment fixed.
2) They buy NEW American cars. Forty million cars ordered - Auto Industry fixed.
3) They either buy a house or pay off their mortgage - Housing Crisis fixed.
Much cheaper than the trillions being ineffectively spent on the financial industry…
3. Promote a change of paradigm where getting the most money as the primary goal would be replaced by doing the most good.
4. Make a brilliant ad campaign: "Whoever Does the Most Good Wins!"
5. Have revered states people look out from TV and address the human core in everyone, urging us to think as a planet to solve the challenges we face.
6. Call for a truce worldwide, where wars end -- via inducements, including a clean slate for everyone. Even terrorists. Promise everyone universal health care, universal education and job training, and whatever it would take to give everyone the fundamentals of a decent life. Pay for it with military budgets.
7. Give ecstasy to people we want info from -- turn evil people into heart-connected ones.
8. Use plants for vision, a la shamans who use psychedelic substances for guidance.
9. Convene a new Twilight Club. "The Twilight Club was an organization founded in the late 19th century, with the intention to counter the moral decline by bolstering up the spiritual and ethical awareness of the society. Illustrious members were Ralph Waldo Emerson, Herbert Spencer, Walt Whitman, Andrew Carnegie, Oliver Wendell Holmes, and Mark Twain...From this club, service clubs such as the Rotary Club and the Lions evolved at a later stage."
As someone on a soapbox trying to get the world to pay attention to crop circles, this little five minute video knocked my socks off. Although it was made in 2007, I didn’t know it existed until it was posted this week on YouTube. I had understood that the person talking didn’t do interviews, or I would have done one with him for my movie.
We’ve seen this information in print, where I think of it as testimony to how what is in front of our eyes can be ignored – like George Bush being our president when we saw that he hadn’t been elected. Well, the information on this video is off the printed page and out of the mouth of the person who did the lab work. Seeing this perhaps could make skeptics into believers.
There are lots of indicators of genuine as opposed to hoaxed crop formations, and my film goes into some of them. But, of all of them, the most definitive ones to our culture, which takes its truth from science, are the scientific studies that have been done on the plants and the soil from inside circles. In the film, we have a couple of slides that show differences between the downed crop from inside them and from the standing crop right outside them. These were expensive studies, done with scientific protocols, and several papers that were written about them were published in peer-reviewed science journals.
Enter the arguers. The journals were not the top ones in the world — true. And the lab is run by someone who does not have a PhD — also true. End of story. Of course, these facts don’t impinge on whether the data is true — they just attempt to discredit the reports. So, for those of you who are interested in the nitty gritty about the circles, spend five minutes with this video. It’s W.C. “Lefty” Levengood, the man with the lab that has done the scientific circle studies — who does not have a PhD. He’s showing you results from one of the studies funded by Laurence Rockefeller, who, when he was alive, was the angel who was far-sighted enough to be interested in such matters. Pictures being worth 1,000 words, Lefty is showing us seeds inside seed heads, from two different crop circles, which have been altered by an extraordinary energy.
Makes you mad. Grrrr, Look at this exchange about what the BBC did re a famous UFO incident in England that the earmarks of being the real deal. This is from someone in England who has an interest in crop circles and in UFOs:
With reference to that controversial BBC ‘hitpiece’ on the Today
program which aroused so much criticism and discussion earlier
this month.
Like many, I wrote complaining how it was utterly biased and
made no effort to contact people actually involved in the
Rendlesham incident.
I have just received the following reply saying in effect,
“Yes it was meant to… be biased. ”
Here’s the actual BBC response:
“Thank you for your e-mail regarding the ‘Today’ programme
broadcast on 11 August.
“We forwarded complaints on this issue to Dominic Groves, one
of the output Editors for the ‘Today’ programme. He explained
in response that this was meant to be an impressionistic piece
describing how an avowed sceptic on these issues reacted when
placed at the scene of a well-known incident such as the one in
Rendlesham Forest.”
He further added, ”This was not intended to be, not did it claim
to be, an in-depth analysis of the rights and wrongs of that
particular case.
“Please be assured we’ve registered your complaint on our
audience log. This is a daily report of audience feedback that’s
circulated to many BBC staff, including members of the BBC
Executive Board, channel controllers and other senior managers.
“Thank you once again for taking the trouble to share your views
with us.
“Kind Regards
“BBC Audience Services”
So, there we have it. The show was meant to “describe how a sceptic
reacted” when placed in the Forest along with two other sceptics….
Surprise, surprise……he reacted……sceptically!
How fortunate we are to have the BBC to enlighten us in this way.
I would be interested in feedback from other people who complained
as to whether my reply from the BBC was a ’round robin’ or whether
we all got individual responses.
Following up on an email I sent to you, with the very latest news of an improved Twitter page (http://www.twitter.com/CropCircleQueen — please follow me!), when I was looking for a favorite quote and found it in one of the very first things I wrote about the circles, before I’d even visited England, I thought it would give you an insight into my fascination with the circles that you might enjoy reading now.
As I continue in my shift from reporting to problem solving as my primary focus, things in the world feel surreal to me, like watching everyone fiddling while Rome is burning. With the preponderance of intelligence telling us that invading Iraq will start World War III, and that we’ll be waking a sleeping giant who will give us back what he’d never initiate against us, everyday life seems unaffected. Although there are huge numbers of us who oppose what our government is doing, it almost feels like a soap opera to listen to echoes of protest that make wisps of noise. As issues of the day have gone from startling new events and revelations to sputters of outrage at continuing quagmires and abuses, even the eloquence of some of the critics of our march to Armageddon have become less of a grab for me than have thoughts I’ve characterized as coming from what’s “farthest out” and “farthest in,” where we might find some solutions.
I don’t fool myself into expecting to be able to move the world, but that doesn’t stop me from trying. And I have something nobody else who is trying has, and that’s my knowledge about crop circles. I toy with how to run with that baton.
I’ve sent some preliminary communications to a few people who think about how to make radical change, to see what I can do to initiate a serious consideration of this topic. Here’s what I’ve been saying.
CROP CIRCLE INQUIRY
This is an invitation to try to envision an explanation for what cannot be explained.
As World War III looms, as a smallpox epidemic is a possibility, as a nuclear detonation might occur, and as we are guaranteed that it’s a matter of time before something worse than the Twin Towers happens, I want to call attention to a ray of hope that is outside the parameters of our helplessness. It is the crop circle phenomenon, where a readily perceivable intelligence has been penetrating our reality for many years, using surfaces on Earth to make artworks. The predominant canvas has been crop fields — some 2,000 occurrences on farms worldwide since 1989, when an escalation occurred in the number of incidents and in their complexity.
Realizing we’re being visited by another intelligence would make everyone consider what is beyond the reality in which we are so threatened. However, as Indians didn’t see Spanish frigates that invaded the New World, humanity has no category for perceiving crop circles. There’s a leap required for people to open their eyes to the fact that we are receiving communications from an unknown source.
Crop circles are not accidental. They are full of intent, which comes from mind. The evidence for them not being natural and not being human-made is overwhelming. For instance, the latest discovery is a crystalline structure in surface soil that only is present in geologic sediments way down deep, that have been exposed to heat from Earth’s core and pressure from the top for millions of years. Even if, as gets proposed, there is some secret technology that we may be testing or employing, that wouldn’t account for the crop circles that were happening way before there was advanced technology. As the great geometer, John Martineau, says, “Even if there is only one real formation — that should be enough! It’s like John Michell said in the early days — when the writing appears on the wall you can jump up and down and say ‘do it again,’ you can denounce it as a hoax, or you can read what it says.”
Here are a few questions to puzzle over:
What auspice could have the keen sense of aesthetics with which to make such beautiful designs?
How do the circlemakers know about events on Earth, like eclipses, or practices on Earth that use symbols?
How do you account for geometry that’s more advanced than ours?
What accounts for formations being carefully placed in the landscape — what they point to and what they tangent, their relationship to tractor tracks and to due north, that tails of scorpions and “thought bubbles” trail down steepish hills, that related patterns miles apart form isosceles triangles, and much more in their placement that indicates mind and intent?
How can there be a response to human thought, like meditations producing the pattern being meditated on?
How do crops get woven and plaited, and plants as stiff as celery get bent into right angles without breaking?
What can beam formations into fields leaving no muddy footprints after stormy arrivals, with plants unbroken by trampling, where whole formations or elements in some of them occur where there is no means of access, and much more that mitigates against human stomping?
What is the reason that cameras break, batteries drain, cell phones don’t work and compasses spin in and above formations?
Why do the ratios of elements in many crop circles correspond to the diatonic scale?
How come hilly ground gets formations that are perfectly symmetrical from the air?
Why do plants from seeds taken from formations grow as much as five times faster than control plants?
All these things, and many more, do not fit in conventional reality. Can you speculate about what sort of unconventional reality we could be dealing with?
“A great power has arisen, directing thoughts and perception in a certain direction, towards a more complete and satisfactory view of reality than the modern conventions of materialism have previously allowed. Gently, subtly,with no disturbance or panic, we are being guided across a watershed, from one world view to another. And this is in no way arbitrary, but a purposeful process, in accordance with the interests of eternal nature and the necessities of the present. We can now see something of what the ancients meant when they spoke of revelation.” -John Michell-
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Q:
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A:
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Anybody who knows crop circle lore knows about this, but, since many of you aren’t circle historians, I’m passing along what always is cited as the first irrefutable evidence of the appearance of crop circles, way before the modern era. Someone sent me this post about it from the BBC’s Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy forum :
Crop circles are not a new phenomenon. There are 17th Century woodcuts that record the observation of what appears to be crop circles. One such woodcut, entitled The Devil Mower, appeared in a Hertfordshire newspaper dated 22 August, 1678. The article described the apparition overnight of a strange design in a field of oats, so neatly pressed that ”no mortal man was able to do the like”, which was attributed to ”the devil or some infernal spirit ”. By convoluted logic this apparition confirmed the existence of God, since, it was argued, if devils have a Hell then there must be a Heaven and a God.
Here is what it says:
Being a True Relation of a Farmer, who Bargaining with a Poor Mower, about the Cutting down Three Half Acres of Oats: upon the Mower’s asking too much, the Farmer swore That the Devil should Mow it rather than He. And so it fell out, that very Night, the Crop of Oat shew’d as if it had been all of a flame: but next Morning appear’d so neatly mow’d by the Devil or some Infernal Spirit, that no Mortal Man was able to do the like. Also, How the said Oats ly now in the Field, and the Owner has not Power to fetch them away. Liscensed, August 22nd, 1678.
