YAHBOO…Crop circles in the news…

I’ve just had a very heartwarming experience.

Yesterday, after Yahoo ran a 2-minute video about crop circles, I got this email from my friend, Kaia, who is working on a proposed reality TV series about the circles:

Wow, are they really trying to re-visit Doug and Dave? This made the front page of Yahoo today: http://whoknew.news.yahoo.com/?vid=20899874 (Note from Suzanne on 7/26 — this link won’t take you there any more. Five days after this video was posted, it was cycled off, never to be retrieved.)

The video is beyond terrible. Watching it, I wondered if this total dismissal of anything mysterious going on, as if it’s a done deal that people have made all the circles, is where the world is at.

Then, I read the comments — not all 1,080 that were up by then, but a lot of them. Almost all of them were castigating Yahoo for showing something so shameful.

These are the 24 comments posted just before I posted one. They aren’t edited at all, to cherry pick for the most interesting ones (or to fix any grammar or punctuation), so you can see the overwhelming rejection of the video.

Is something changing out there? Is there a lot of awareness now about the circles, and acceptance of them as likely to be coming from elsewhere? It used to be the other way round — whenever something about the circles appeared, there was one defense to a slew of attacks. The comments on this video, up to 2080 and still going strong at the point at which I wrote this post, are extraordinarily good news!!!!

Here are those 24 that preceded what I wrote — to watch my movie, of course. (It would be lovely if you listmembers would do the same — the trailer is here: http://CropCircleMovie.com) :

Hank Winig
You people suck. What did you do sell your soul to the US Government. There the only ones dumb enough to think we will believe all crop circles were made be a few drunk collage kids. All with in hours or even minutes in some cases. Ya Yahoo this is the one that will flush you out of the lime lite.

David
WOW!! That was intense exposé! Yahoo should be deeply ashamed of airing something this blatantly stupid. Yes, many of them have been hoaxed, but the anomalies on too many of them require a different explanation.

BarefootBoy
Those who think Doug and Dave made all those crop circles cannot recognize a LIE even if it is tied to a board and whacks them over the head. Crop Circles are laid down at night in moments, some- times in a driving rain, even with researchers watching through the night with night vision.

Steven
1971 wasn’t the start of them. If they had done a little research they would find that crop circles have been appearing since the beginning of recorded history. Many are far too complex to be made by man. Try explaining the excess radiation and a magnetic field alteration. Just stupid propoganda!!!

Sierra
Its aliens. I heard people who go into the circles lose there cell signals, and its like there in a magnactic field or something. Also this isnt really news everybody knows its aliens theyre just making up stuff like area 51

TEJ
Okay, you know they don’t want us to know the truth and like someone said, people will just take this garbage and run with it. This is some Bu-u-l-l!

HiwayMan
Crop circles have been documented for centuries, on all continents and all cultures. This whole thing is a @#$% whitewash.

David
Crop circle were reported way before the 70`s In chile they have carved out mountains that are cut in half for the purpose a landing run way. Thousand of yards long. You can only see this from above. Airplanes are what? a little over a houndred years old from the Right Brothers.

Renee
Give me a break! Planks and rope! RIGHT!

Donald
The word is ZO ology, not ZOO ology

Jared H
Those two guys that claimed to have made are full of crap.

Howard
I’ve never seen a real crop circle myself, so I can’t speak from experience, but from what I’ve read and heard in interviews from the independent experts, the plants in these crop circles have undergone molecular changes, and are not simply “tipped over” with ropes and boards. Nice try, Yahoo.

G
YAHOO PROPAGANDA……YAHOO LEADS THE WORLD IN MISINFORMATION

Proper Drainage
Who cares if they are fake or the work of some lazy aliens its just a little disinformation scam by your government.

Danny
What dumbass made this video? The first recorded crop circles date back more than 200 years. And no, you can’t superheat the insides of plant stalks with a plank. You can’t char roots under the soil with a plank. The only thing that could do that would be a huge microwave oven…

Mik F
hilarious!! well im sold with such a fine detailed answer!! give me a break

Ann
Dave and Doug were debunked a long time ago. Get your facts straight. It’s so much easier to try to not think about something then to spend one moment of time giving a true mystery and wonder one iota of sincere thought. It must require just too much effort.

?
Some years back I remember actor Judd Nelson narrated an utterly ridiculous program that claimed this phenomenon was the work of crop circle ninja’s that appeared out of a cloud of smoke all dressed in black and traveled the planet making formations … it was just bizarre!!!

Samplethat
Wow, Government disinformation at it’s dumbest. My friend, Linda Moulton Howe sat in the middle of a field as the circles appeared….in less than 2 minutes. Doug and Dave were not there. BTW Doug and Dave were working for the British Govt. Calm the masses and cover your a$es.

Harpdog
whoever made this “report” should never have graduated highschool. read the book “secrets in the fields” and then appologize for the dumbest “report” i’ve ever seen from anyone older than a 10 year old. those man made things are actually called crap-circles, because that’s what a man made one is…

24FRANCISCO
WHO CARES! I NEED A JOB!

Mike
who posts this @#$%? Many crop circles are legit and are too complex to be created by man. This is just the ongoing smear effort to cover the growing sightings of UFO activity. Disclosure is coming, and soon.

David W
Good grief. What a brainless piece of propaganda. In this too-fast-paced society of ours, unfortunately, most people will just assume what they just saw here sums it all up and must be the truth. BULL. If you dig and study this phenomenon, you will find quite a different result.

Doug
This is such a lame video explanation of crop circles

146 thoughts on “YAHBOO…Crop circles in the news…”

  1. Proving anything in regard to crop circles is impossible, as the BLT people have found out. There will always be believers and non-believers, just as history has shown us in many things considered “supernatural” or “paranormal”. Was Jesus a real human who actually lived in that time period? I say yes he was; Richard Dawkins says he is a myth…..neither of us can come remotely close to proving our assertion.

    You and I and many thousands of others choose to believe that the circles are a long-standing announcement that we are not the only intelligent beings who inhabit this space. But most of humanity still holds to the idea that we are the most intelligent species (we’re not, the cetaceans are) and that the consensus reality conveyed by the elite’s media is the one and only reality that exists. So, for these folks, there must be supremely gifted geometers out there stealthily using microwave oven parts to bend crop stalks (the most ridiculous of all the assertions made, I think; I nearly died laughing at that image; all the extensions cords and dissassembled ovens strewn about while the stalks are being bent).

    Most people do not want any mystery in their lives. It is unsettling and reminds them to fear what is unknown and foreign to them. Some can open the door and let some mystery in. Their lives seem more open, fun, and creative, to me.

    It does bother me a little bit that so few people are any good at spelling. I think many are smart, but their spelling makes them seem less so. Some of the respondents can’t spell worth a damn and it makes their comments less powerful. “Collage students”? Wow.

    Thanks for all you have done to try and show people that there is much more to this existence than we care to acknowledge. I hope your documentary goes viral at some point and millions get the message. Just the mind-opening that would bring about could have some wonderful impact on our struggling global culture.

    For the third time in our long correspondence, I feel compelled to type:

    “Celestial travelers have always been here with us
    Set in the homes of the universe we have yet to go
    Countless expansions will arrive and flow inside of us
    My friend [she] of fantasy, dancing with the Spirit of the Age”
    (thank you, Jon)

    I’m a huge fan of the giant jellyfish, no matter who (or what) made it!! Primordial energy bringing forth the seven chakras!! Dig it!!

    From Suzanne:

    God bless Jon Anderson, of Yes, After you turned me onto his lyrics about the circles, he responded to my query and we went back and forth in an attempt to find music of his to use in the movie. We just couldn’t’ find the spot, and I kick myself a bit that I didn’t’ re-edit to accommodate his artistry and add luster to the film.

  2. Perhaps Yahoo was hired to test the public’s response as part of preparation for disclosure?

    From Suzanne:

    From your lips to God’s ear, as they say!

  3. I have not seen the Yahoo News report, but from what I have seen I don’t have to because as a whole, and from what I have seen, corporations prefer slavery (profit) over truth (freedom).

    From Suzanne:

    Another thing to say, however, is that we all, by and large, hold stock in those corporations, and want them to do well. The gears of civilization are very complex and meshed, and it will take quite something to rethink it all — something like the crop circles!

  4. Crop Circles are made by Angels! The white balls that are seen moving over the circles are the Angels’ light bodies…the designs are created for all to advance (evolve) that are ready to move to a higher level in order to bring us closer to God, and they are accelerated at this time so that more beings will be ready to vibrate at the frequency required to survive the near future catastrophe. When you gaze upon the designs, you subconsciously (some consciously) reach a higher plane of existence that causes your vibrations to be raised and more in tune with the beings that will save those who are ready for salvation and will be known by their frequency ratio for Good. No evil beings will be allowed. It is important to pay attention to any and all new and old circles (that were not created by Dave & Doug), so you will be prepared mentally for the catastrophic occurance, perhaps when the Mayan calender stops or sometime before, in 2011. Those who “get it” know…those who don’t, don’t. But no matter what level you are on, your consciousness will be raised by gazing upon the designs, which are messages from God’s messengers!

    From Suzanne:

    Imho, best to couch ‘knowing’ in ‘believing.’ Like religions. We love our own but must be aware than others think differently. Lots of people are ‘sure’ that crop circles are one thing or another — and that humanity’s scenario will be what they think it will be — but really, we don’t want to go to war over what might happen.

    However, circle lore is that staring at the patterns of the formations that are designed with sacred geometry can be very good for us. That geometry is the fundamental patterning of the universe, and allowing ourselves to entrain on such patterns can help align us with them. Nan Lu, a practitioner of Chinese medicine and quite a sage, who is in the bonus material talking about his favorite circle, has patients gaze at particular patterns for help in treating particular diseases.

  5. I’m absolutely disapointed with Yahoo. How can you be so ignorant about this astonishing phenomenon and publish this stupid video? This is an example of the worst journalism in these days. I recommend you to see the video ‘WHAT ON EARTH?’ to inform your journalist.

    From Suzanne:

    What a good idea! 🙂

  6. Yahoo you bunch of clowns! It’s astounding that such a contemporary organization as yourselves can be in such denial. AND to try and push your conservative views onto the rest of the world is pathetic. WAKE UP you fools!! The fact that unearthly forms of radiation are found in these designs is proof that they are not man made. Not to mention that many massive,and mathematically perfect works of art appear in as little as 45 minutes! How people want to interpret them is another matter. The fact is that it’s a big universe out there, and the notion that doug & dave made them all is laughable. Don’t insult our intelligence; it’s obvious you have been paid off by a paranoid government!

    From Suzanne:

    Actually eye witness accounts tell us that the formations take only 6 or 7 seconds to go down!

  7. Yahoo! The Misinformation Search Engine!

    That is what you should now be known as.

    Pure misinformation that used to be believed by the masses who have no internet. But, thanks to the internet and Google, we are no longer being brainwashed by the mass media. Now Yahoo! wants to try what the mass media failed at: Spoofing Crop Circles.

    Sounds like Yahoo! is aligning itself with Microsoft. Do you know what I mean?

  8. How do you suppose Doug and Dave managed to create such energy in the crop circles that cell phones and watches stopped when people entered them? Our friends from afar have been helping us and these are their calling cards. Wait until you see how the biggest story on the planet is going to unfold!

  9. Yahoo, you should have done your research first. Now you look like the yahoo. But thanks to this video, many people will start to take crop circles seriouly and do their own investigation into them.

    Now, about 150 fabulous and intricate crop circles are created each year all around the world. Sometimes several in one night. They began long before 1971. As an artist I know that there is no possible way these can be created by people in such short amounts of time, at night, without anyone ever wanting to take credit for the resulting amazing works of art, let alone the messages and geometry involved. Human artists usually like to get credit for their work.

    Toyota, you have tarnished your name again. Yahoo, you underestimate us.

  10. I could not believe it when I saw it. The most simplistic piece of baloney masquerading as journalism I have seen in a long time. And I said so on their website. From a journalism/communications writer in the heartland.

  11. It’s hard to believe that such garbage would be given any recognition by yahoo without even taking the briefest of looks at the phenomenon to know that Doug and Dave could never have created the number and complexity of the crop circles. I hope Yahoo is taking the time to read these comments and will perhaps send out an apology for such a sleazy, unsubstantiated video.

  12. Well, there are people who believe the earth was created in 7 days, who believe Obama isn’t ” amerikan” and that women do not have right over their own bodies. It is no surprise that the nut cases who made this piece think there is HUGE money to be made out of crop circles. But does character assassination work on the true makers of crop circles?

    The messages we know we feel from the crop circles is one of unity – clearly NOT the message of the video. I wouldn’t buy that car anyway. LOL.

  13. Shame on you, yahoo! It’s just another example of the mainstream world trying to dumb us down & keep truths from us. Thank god there aren’t too many people left who would actually BELIEVE anything you write – let alone your take on something as stupendous as this gift to mankind.I do believe that this was quite deliberate however – so forthwith I am cancelling my account with Yahoo mail. Wake up – for god’s sake!

  14. I am posting this comment about the dissing of the TRUTH, the veracity of the crop-circle phenomenon; they have been appearing since ancient times and by far pre-date the obviously foolish hoaxers creating their childish circles.

    An apt analogy compares their circles to paintings done by four-year-olds, and real crop circles—created in the blink of an eye by Someone or Something no one has ever witnessed—to the paintings done by Rembrandt.

    To this observer of the circle phenom, and an enthusiastic supporter of filmmaker Suzanne Taylor’s documentary, WHAT ON EARTH?, about the crop circles, what stands out as unhoaxable and uncopyable are two facts: 1. The grain stalks are not dead, but rather bent in a way that no human being can replicate. and 2. Renowned “geometers” can take months to figure out the geometry involved in creating the intricate designs that appear as if my magic—overnight—in, I believe Ms. Taylor’s documentary cited, 41 countries occurring over centuries!

    The Shakesperean phrase: “There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy,” speaks to the small-mindedness and shortsightedness of humans today.

  15. Crop circles are one of the most amazing mysteries on this planet! It is clear that you don’t keep track of their magnificent complexities. Why would you allow a stupid dump on something so incredible? Who is behind Toyota anyway???

    Could you manifest hundreds of perfect circles in the dark all geometrically exact? Good luck!!!

    Tell Toyota to get their erroneous info off. They have already lost one customer! Mitsubishi here I come!!!

  16. Anyone who has done even the most superficial research on the crop circles knows that they cannot be created by humans. For Toyota to contribute to the disinformation and confusion going on about this profound and mysterious phenomenon is shameful and destructive to the cause of science.

  17. Having just returned from my first visit to crop circle rich Wiltshire, England, I add my voice to those who have SEEN that most circles cannot possibly have been made by people. Those that have been are so obviously different that their detection is easy. I agree it is to YAHOO’s shame that they posted so pathetic a piece on them. My experience in the newest circles, and I am an evolution biologist, was that I was experiencing the purest direct creation from a cosmic field of sacred geometry into these exquisite patterns in Earth’s human-planted crop fields as an extraordinary and transformational GIFT. I am less interested now in the “who” of them than in their loving and awesome presence in our world.

    From Suzanne:

    Really fine to have this great scientist, Elisabet Sahtouris, weighing in. http://www.sahtouris.com

  18. It occurs to me that if the powers-to-be wanted to hush up stuff about crop circles, UFO’s and such (not saying they’re one and the same), that they’d do better by just keeping silent instead of putting out blatantly lame disinformation like this video…BTW sponsored by Toyota…and bringing attention to it all. What do they take us for a bunch of yahoos?

  19. Strange that 1) John E. Mack, professor of psychiatry at Harvard and (2) physicist, Nassim Haramein, winner of the ‘Best Paper Award’ at the University of Liege’s 9th International (physics) Conference CASYS’09 have both been fascinated by crop circles, their lives being enriched as a consequence.

    P.S. limited to this number of words for Yahoo

  20. I am amazed that Yahoo put that out there. Everyone knows Doug and Dave did a few but how do you explain the thousands of crop circles around the world? Plus, the ones they created didn’t have any energy connected with them. The ones that were created by something else have amazing energy. The movie showed that. It is too bad Yahoo didn’t check their facts and went with the guys. If they watched the movie, they wouldn’t have put them out there.
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  21. You could perceive the Crop Circle events as a form of winnowing process. Those who understand and appreciate the Magic, Mystery, Artistry and Genius of the phenomenon stay in as the wheat. Those who, despite the huge and growing weight of evidence to the contrary, deny that anything out of the ordinary is happening (such as your reporter) just fall through as the chaff.

  22. YAHOO – Crop Circles -I am surprised by your article. I always thought we were reading truth but I had no idea you have sold out to the government propaganda to keep everyone in the dark. How did you get paid? Not only Yahoo has failed to convince anyone, but it also succeeded in destroying our faith and trust in Yahoo. There are lot more meanings to these Crop Circle patterns than you can ever comprehend.

  23. How stupid and unconcious this 2 minute movie from Yahoo
    What a shallow muck

  24. This video is clearly a misrepresentation of the facts and totally one-sided. Man made crop circles can’t be made in a few seconds. Their electromagnetic qualities have been totally ignored. Yahoo needs to get its facts straight. I certainly won’t be supporting Yahoo in any way!

  25. This is an example of the state of journalism as a whole today. We have one of the largest corporations in the world funding a site that is one of the most active in the world and flooding the public with completely false information that some desk worker dug up from years ago and did not bother to check This information had been discredited years ago. Shame on you!!!

  26. Toyota has had enough problems with its image recently. It does not need to be associated with such an ill informed and inappropriate presentation on crop circles. The circles have been found around the world long before the 1970s. The rope and plank you report on cannot account for the excess radiation, magnetic field alteration, the type of damage to the stalks of the crop, etc. Only by embracing the mystery can we hope to move toward understanding.

  27. It always amazes me how people totally ignorant of the phenomenon can make such statements. In this case I am particularly surprised and indeed concerned that a company such as Toyota can fall down so badly on basic research. Doug and Dave `said` they made a few but only in Hampshire which fails to explain the ones that appeared long before that date, namely The Moving Devil` in 1678 and then subsequent ones over the years .

    We know that some are man made, that is no secret, but why, for example, don’t they research the scientific results that show a lack of any human involvement in certain crop circles?

    Therefore I have to ask myself of what are they frightened or what pressure has been levied on them by some exterior agency in order to ridicule this phenomenon? The once respected National Graphic takes a similarly misguided and unscientific approach.

    From Suzanne:

    This is from Lucy Pringle, a great circle photographer who does scientific research on the effects of the circles on people. See the post I put up about her: http://theconversation.org/blog/get-your-crop-circle-pictures-and-more-here.orgAnd here are her books: http://lucypringle.co.uk/merchandise/books/index.shtml

  28. Shame on you Yahoo. It is quite clear you have underestimated a great many of us – what with the number of negative responses you have received.

  29. “Flat-earth” type thinking is apparently still alive and struggling for recognition…but who cares? Why stand aghast at shallow thinking from those who are too lazy to research and read about the exciting prospect of experiencing something “outside of the box”, such as Crop Circles. There is plenty of evidence to support the acceptance of what some label as “phoney science”. READ!

  30. I find it amazing and disheartening that Yahoo feels it necessary to “debunk” something that has been so well researched. The idea that these circles are made by two goofballs is so hilarious that this whole video belongs on something like “Laugh In” — Doug and Dave would fit right in!

    But then, look who sponsored this – a company who keeps telling everyone how great their cars are, despite continued recalls.

  31. From Lucy Pringle’s library of wisdom on her calendar for January: “There is no safer place for ultimate wisdom to hide than in the obvious,” from Alice O. Howell’s “The Web in The Sea.”

  32. This video piece is so laughably uninformed as to boggle the mind with its pathetic “expose” of the crop circle phenomenon. There is (yet another) obvious attempt here to irritate those among us who are so moronic as to believe these formations are created by aliens. Well…..NEWSFLASH! I AM one of those morons who strongly believe that aliens (or some profound intelligence) are behind this most incredible and inspiring phenomenon. As for the morons behind this video piece……go f, yourselves you dumbasses….Good night and good luck……………

  33. Yahoo, I can see that the subject matter involving the origin and nature of crop circles is way over your head. Is your intent of this lame video misinformation or disinformation? It is most likely the former, judging that your assertions are totally inaccurate and misleading. If you are willfully proffering lies, then you are beyond help. Do your homework. Find a reasonable and educated researcher in the field. Fire your former video production team and create something that is worthy of our attention. What a bunch of morons.

  34. I have to wonder what is wrong with yahoo of late. Their choice of material has been terrible, and this video clearly exposes complete absence of knowledge on the subject. Time to short the stock?

  35. This is another good reason not to believe what you hear/read on the internet. These ‘reporters’ don’t check the most basic facts before they produce something that ‘sells’. I hope Toyota distances themselves from this stupid video. Doug and Dave??? Really???

  36. BROVO, SUZANNE, YOUR PURE PASSION FOR YOUR THEME BURSTS FROM THE SCREEN. DON

  37. Crop circles are one of the most compelling mysteries of our times. You have tried to dumb down this mystery! What does this say about you, Yahoo? Granted not all are done by an intelligence we do not yet understand and perhaps many in recent years are man made but many others are not. Some great minds and scholars have been researching this phenomenon. But you put this stupid video on to do what? Make people think it’s all just fun done by the Doug and Dave crowd.

  38. Toyota has a great background in automotive engineering. It’s too bad that it has not applied the same sound reason to explain the complexity present in the crop formations, which should be a challenge to their intellectual outlook. These advertisements are why I turned off my television 20 months ago. There is very little worth stimulating development of enlightened viewpoints. Do yourself a favour and ignore the dross for what it’s worth.

  39. It’s so insulting to see, in this day and age, broadcasts to the masses with the intent to misinform and keep the general population in the dark (if everyone starts thinking for themselves and realizes the truth – how scary is THAT for those hungry to stay “in power”!?!)… but it’s also very intersting and empowering to see that these attempts to misinform are becoming so (ridiculously) obvious, that the opposite is occurring – more and more of us clearly have had enough and seek the truth, and it’s a reaction that’s worth celebrating! To those in charge of these broadcasts – do yourselves a favor and at least research your material before making complete asses of yourselves (so unprofessional)!

  40. I’m glad this video was posted! It’s gotten a lot of attention and people thinking about crop circles again. A lot of people didn’t even know they are still happening. The video does have a slant towards them being man-made, but it did give info in the beginning about them being mysterious a growing industry, happening worldwide, UFO connections, complex designs, and cereologists. Why would these cereologist study a man-made circle??? No reason, right? I think there were a lot of facts there in the video, but misleading with the doug and dave statement and the planks and ropes. Even though not a great video, I think it was great for the masses to see a photo and diagrams of real crop circles and think about the phenomenon.

    From Suzanne:

    This comment reminds me of the situation with Signs, where at first all the crop circle aficionados were appalled at how the movie co-opted the phenomenon to create sensation and gave totally fallacious facts about it. How dare they? Well, now, when you mention crop circles and someone gives you a puzzled look, you say Signs, and they say, “Oh, those things.” It put crop circles on a much bigger map. Progress comes in small steps — maybe consistent with why UFOs don’t land on the White House lawn, which would be a hitting over the head jarring experience instead of letting the light slowly dawn.

  41. If this is the kind of reporting Yahoo is promoting, then my trust in Yahoo has reached an all time low. Did the government make you an offer you couldn’t refuse? I suppose next you will start telling us that everything is fine with the economy and that the Gulf of Mexico will be as good as new is a few weeks. Please try at least a little bit to present honest and accurate reporting. The thousands of Crop Circles around the world were not all made by Doug and Dave.

  42. Hey, I used to do advertising! I even won a bunch of Gold Addy’s for my work. Interesting. I remember doing research, executing from integrity, learning all the facts so that the copy that I wrote told the truth…hence, sold product and truthfully seduced belief. Hmmmm…maybe I should send them my resume’, eh? Oh, I forgot, I’m not a cocky 18yr old ad exec, driving Dad’s PRIUS, and giggling on cue to my 24yr old boss’s jokes! I guess having grace and vision is out of ad style. Sad, very sad. Just don’t give it any more power…let it ‘lie’…we are bigger than this little stupidity. It all comes to truth, the rest fades to black.

  43. Thank God for the mystery! Thank God for crop circles! Thank God for Suzanne Taylor! At least something in this falling apart world of ours is going beautifully, efficiently and amazing well. We had better pay attention to what the crop circles are showing us! Our cookie cutter existence is being threatened by these amazing designs. I am disheartened that Yahoo “doesn’t get it.” I once thought that Yahoo was a conscious system. It isn’t.

    From Suzanne:

    Sure made my day!

  44. Are you kidding? I’ve been in the crop circles I KNOW they are real. get over yourself yahoo and make room for people who have experienced them. Clearly you have not.
    Why do you and those like you continue to try and take us back to the stone age?
    How dare you tamper with what you know precious little about.
    inform your selves

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