Terje Toftenes is in the community of scholars and artists from all over the world that converges o­n southern England in the summer, while crop circles are coming in. This is an interview with him conducted by Linda Moulton Howe, a journalist with special interest in what impinges this reality from another o­ne. In this interview, Terje expresses thoughts I share about the phenomenon, which are echoed in the film I'm almost finished making.

The occasion for the interview is Linda's story that precedes it, http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1288&category=Environment , involving the small window in time for the arrival of a massive formation that got Terje o­n a plane:



Here's what's o­n Linda's website:

Terje Toftenes, Video Producer and Managing Director of Strat and Toftenes in Sandvika, Norway, got a call o­n Tuesday, July 10, from a colleague in Wiltshire telling Terje that not o­nly had o­ne of the biggest crop formations in Wiltshire history appeared early in the morning o­n Saturday, July 7, 2007, in the East Field, but there had been cameras running when a very bright flash of light was seen from Knap Hill by three eyewitnesses. Terje studied electronic engineering in a Norwegian university and later worked as a TV producer for the Norwegian Broadcasting Corp. until 1978, then managed an Audio-Visual Department for a Norwegian public relations company until 1986. That year, he founded his own video company to produce industrial films. Today, Strat and Toftenes produces for major clients in the offshore oil, gas and shipping industries.

But after Terje stepped into his first English crop formation, in 2003, he was haunted by their beauty and the mystery of what they could mean. He ended up producing a documentary for Norwegian television that was translated into an English version in 2006 as Crossovers From Another Dimension. (See more information below.) He's now working o­n a follow-up documentary.

So when Terje received the phone call about a massive pattern of circles estimated to cover 96,600 square feet, or 2.25 acres, with more than 95 circles (final count was 150) in a very strange design spread across 1,033 feet and 490 feet wide – plus three eyewitnesses who saw a bright flash of light while light-sensitive and infrared cameras were set up – he got o­n the first plane out of Norway and headed for East Field.

[Suzanne here. I've snipped the long exchange about what exactly happpened and was seen. And from this point o­n, Terje is talking, with Linda's queries in caps.]

Terje Toftenes Stepped into Formation
On Wednesday, July 11

I also had that experience when I stepped o­n the outskirts of the formation that if you are used to stepping o­n very cold snow, it kind of cracks under your feet. It was the same sound.

These stems were not broken. They were just gently bent and people who have been doing crop circle research over the years have found this is how it usually is in genuine formations – that the stems are not broken. They are gently bent so the crop is not dying. It’s growing and if the crop is young, it will straighten up again.

I also felt there was a strong radiation from the formation. Gary told me the first morning that he was in there that pretty soon he had a bad headache. I experienced the same myself when I was in there four days later. Inside this crop formation, I had been there for half an hour when I had a terrible headache. It lasted until I left the formation. When I got into the car and drove away, the headache was gone

East Field Is Not Flat
Something Knew How to Make Ovals o­n the Ground
That Would Look Like Perfect Circles from the Air

The East Field is not a totally flat pancake field. It actually curves up and down. When you look at the formation from up above from an aerial photo, you see that the circles are absolutely 100% correct circles. To make circles look 100% from the air in a field that has up and down hills, you cannot create 100% perfect circles o­n the ground. You have to create ovals. And that’s the case here. All the circles that are lying o­n a hilly surface more than a flat surface, they are ovals.

[Suzanne here. This is not the first time for this oval situation, which in fact is the norm. An impressive earlier instance was in 1996, in a formation referred to as the Triple Julia, which is a fractal patterning of what geometers call a Julia Set.



This formation, that I got into, was in a very hilly field. Not o­nly were the shapes circular from the air, but if you take any three corresponding circles from the three arms, they form equilateral triangles. Start in the center where the three circles are close together, and move out a couple of times into the next rings of the circles, to see what I mean — all perfect equal triangles.]

To construct 100% correct ovals in total darkness – everything you do is extremely difficult because you can’t see anything. So, to construct not just o­ne, but several ovals and large o­nes – the largest o­ne is like 50 meters, or 160 feet. Under those dark conditions, I would consider that impossible and everyone I have spoken to among the researchers down here and also civil engineers who are used to land surveys – they say that to do that under those conditions and also within that limited time frame (90 minutes to 1 hour and 45 minutes), they regard that as absolutely impossible for humans to do.”

Extraordinary Non-Human Intelligence
Behind Crop Formations

We are thrilled about what has happened and feel the public should know, the world should know, that something is going o­n in these fields that – well, I just can’t describe it. I get goose bumps all over my body when I’m talking about it, you know?

IN YOUR GUT INTUITION, WHAT DO YOU SENSE IS BEHIND THE CROP FORMATIONS?

I’m absolutely convinced it is a very intelligent entity, or whatever it is. To me, I have a feeling that what we perceive with our five senses is just a part of the real reality. Our 5 senses are constructed to perceive reality in the 3-dimensional reality. I have a strong feeling that there is life going o­n within us and around us that we do not perceive.

I think there are other intelligences in this universe visiting and monitoring us. And I have a very strong feeling that our governments know a lot more about this than they will tell us. So, I think it is either something projected o­n the ground from an alien source. Or it is projected o­n the ground from an inter-dimensional source that we are not able to perceive with our senses. But definitely, this source has decided to present itself in a way that is so beautiful and that is not hostile that creates the most thrilling feelings within us and invites us to explore the unknown and invites us to start discussions about realities, consciousness … and it is an invitation to start growing as people again because we have for so long been stuck in our materialistic world view and it’s probably time to take the next step in the evolution of humankind. That’s my opinion.

TERJE, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE IDEA THAT CROP FORMATIONS OVER THE PAST QUARTER CENTURY ARE A KIND OF 3-DIMENSIONAL SYMBOL LANGUAGE BASED o­n MATH THAT HAVE SOME KIND OF FUNCTION IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE SURFACE OF THIS EARTH THAT WE DON’T UNDERSTAND?

If the circle makers are trying to pass through messages to humankind, why do it in such a difficult way? Why not spell it out in letters in the fields? I think it’s like when you educate children. If you tell children to do this, not do that, that’s not real education. Real education is when you lead your children to explore things o­n their own. Then they really learn. That’s what I think these formations do. They invite us to start a learning process where we have to be the active o­ne. They are helping us o­n the way, they are giving us signs, they are giving us wonders to explore – but we have to do the work ourselves. That’s how we are going to evolve and grow and learn.

Why Are Governments Threatened by Crop Formations?

SO, WHY WOULD CROP FORMATIONS AROUND THE WORLD THREATEN GOVERNMENTS AND MILITARY?

Because it threatens our world view. It threatens our belief systems. To feel secure in society, you have to feel that you have control. These crop formations tell us that the governments do not have control. They are apparently appearing in our fields at night and I guess the military is pretty frustrated – well, I KNOW the military in England is very frustrated because their job is to control the airspace of England and something is invading this airspace almost every night! I’m not just talking of crop formations, but also of UFOs of which there are many reports here every summer and during the whole year actually. So, I guess the government is very concerned about letting the situation get out of control. You can just imagine what would happen if some government said, ‘OK, we just have to inform you that we are aware of Something fiddling around in our fields every summer. We don’t know what it is, but it is certainly there and much more intelligent than us. So, just watch out.’

What kind of situation would that create? What would our churches say? How would they define God? It’s like opening an enormous box of possibilities that you can’t control and that’s why the government does not want the people to be aware of this.

WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE TO MAKE GOVERNMENTS AND LEADERS o­n THIS PLANET FINALLY TALK IN TRUE LANGUAGE AND FACTS WITH THE REST OF THE CITIZENRY ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE’RE NOT ALONE AND THERE ARE PHENOMENA RELATED TO ADVANCED INTELLIGENCES?

That’s the major question, Linda. I don’t have a proper answer to that. I’m afraid what it’s going to take is a crisis, just like the environmental situation. We have to have a crisis before we start reacting. We are very conservative in the way we conduct our lives. We don’t want change, even though we say we are open to change, deep down we don’t want it. We want to live our safe, predictable lives as we always have done. And these phenomena are kind of opening a door to Something we cannot control. We do not know what it is. It’s risky. It might be dangerous. I don’t know what it takes, but I would say it takes some kind of crisis before we really open our eyes and before the government is willing to establish some type of organized investigation.

But I think the destruction of Earth will also affect not o­nly this planet, but will have an effect outside our planet. That’s why I think the concern is rising and Some Other force, or Intelligence, is trying to give us some hints that we should start opening our eyes now and see that we are not alone.

DO YOU THINK THE CROP CIRCLE MYSTERY IS HEADED TOWARD SOME KIND OF RESOLUTION IN WHICH THE INTELLIGENCE BEHIND THE CROP FORMATIONS OVER ALL THESE YEARS WILL MAKE ITSELF PUBLIC TO HUMANS o­n THIS PLANET?

I have a feeling it is. I have a feeling you can see that very clearly from the way it is accelerating. The phenomenon is growing. It’s definitely taking us somewhere. We are headed toward crisis in the energy systems o­n this Earth. We are headed toward environmental crisis. I mean, for just talking about energy – in like 40 years, we will run out of gas. And we will run out of the energy that drives 80% of all our systems o­n the Earth. So, in 50 Earth years, we will have some pretty big troubles o­n our hands. If we don’t wake up and do something about that pretty soon, then this planet is going down, this civilization is o­n its way down.

I think this crop circle thing is a wake up call and the reason it’s accelerating is because this crisis we are o­nto is also accelerating pretty fast. So, it’s a wake up call and a sign that we are full speed towards a crisis.

Terje Toftenes's 3-set DVD, Crop Circles – Crossover From Another Dimension English version © 2006. 240 minutes. $39.95. http://www.ufotv.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=UFOTV&Product_Code=U653

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and More Science and Spirit Smarts is about alchemy. Both posts deal with how differently we used to perceive ourselves before we split science and spirit, and how objective reality is now considered the true reality, marginalizing all else. The all else is where crop circles live.

http://www.annebaring.com — is “devoted to the affirmation of a new vision of reality and to the exploration of the deeper issues facing us at this crucial time of choice.” She has other very intelligent pieces there, that also go beyond the parameters of our public dialogue, where we confine ourselves to trying to change results without giving consideration to the need to deal with causes.

Excerpted from THE LOSS OF THE WORLD SOUL AND ITS RETURN

The belief system of scientific reductionism which so powerfully influences modern secular culture may be understood as the end-result of the long-standing dissociation between spirit and nature, mind and matter but, above all, the sundering within us of thinking and feeling, rational mind and instinctive soul – the conscious and unconscious aspects of our nature. It has concluded that the universe is indifferent to us, that we are the products of impersonal forces operating o­n inanimate matter and that we do not survive death…

Yet, o­nce, long ago, in a past so distant that we have no memory of it the whole cosmos was seen as a living being and the visible world was a showing forth of an unseen source which animated and sustained it. Everything in the heavens and o­n earth was infused with divinity because everything was part of a living, breathing web of life. The invisible and visible dimensions of life were imagined and experienced as a sacred unity.

Our present consciousness has grown out of a far more ancient and instinctive way of knowing which could be described as lunar…What did the moon teach us? The emergence of the crescent moon from the three days of darkness that preceded it gave us the image of the visible world emerging from an invisible o­ne, the time-bound world from an eternal o­ne. The moon nourished the creative imagination, teaching us to observe and to wonder, helping us to make connections between what was above in the heavens and what was below o­n earth…

From this lunar pattern constantly speaking to the mythic imagination, birth and death became a rite of passage for the soul as it journeyed between the visible and invisible dimensions of life, a journey that was symbolised by the path through a labyrinth. The ancestors were not lost to the living but were close by, available to counsel and guide. There was, therefore, no final demarcation line between life and death.

The constant rhythm of the moon waxing and waning held both light and darkness in relation to each other – held them in balance – because the totality of the moon’s cycle embraced both light and dark phases and therefore symbolically included both life and death. Light and darkness were not polarised as they were later to become in a solar culture, but were phases of the total cycle, so that there was always an image of a unifying whole which included both polarities.

Over countless thousands of years, shamanic rituals and myths kept alive the sense of connection between this world and another world whose symbol, initially, may have been the dark phase of the moon…This lunar culture was primarily feminine in character – receptive to the presence of the eternal…

Having described a lunar culture where people lived within a sacred cosmos, we may ask what wider cultural influences led to the loss of the World Soul?…From about 2000 bce, we begin to see developing a new phase in the evolution of human consciousness – a phase whose focus is the sun rather than the moon. As this process develops, solar mythology begins to displace lunar mythology: linear time begins to replace lunar cyclical time, and a linear, literal and objective way of thinking slowly replaces the older imaginal and participatory way of knowing. Concurrently, the human psyche draws away from nature and as it does so, the predominant image of spirit changes from Great Mother to Great Father. The greater the withdrawal from nature, the more transcendent and disengaged from nature becomes the image of the deity: divine immanence is lost. The mind is focused beyond nature o­n the realm of intellectual ideas: philosophy becomes discourse o­n these ideas rather than relationship with an invisible reality.

A second major influence was the impact of literacy o­n our way of thinking. The written word replaced the oral tradition that had carried the wisdom and insights of the older culture…Perhaps because literacy distanced us from nature, creation in the Judeo-Christian tradition is now believed to arise from the word of the transcendent Father, no longer from the womb of the Mother. This is a crucially important distinction because the unity of life is again broken: invisible spirit no longer animates and inhabits nature. The earth is desacralised. Religious belief replaces shamanic experience. Ancient ways of connection are forbidden. With this shift in archetypal imagery, everything formerly associated with the feminine archetype (the Great Mother) is downgraded in relation to the masculine o­ne (the Great Father)…For over 4000 years, under the influence of this mythology, war and conquest were glorified as the noblest activity for man; victory and the spoils of war the coveted treasure to be won in battle, courage in battle the supreme virtue in the warrior…

Solar mythology reflects an immense change in human consciousness, the formulation of an entirely new perception of life, o­ne where, as technology advances, nature becomes something to be controlled and manipulated by human ingenuity, to human advantage…It is as if the heroic human ego, identified with the solar hero, has to seek out new territories to conquer, has to embody the myth in a literal sense. The terminology of conquest and dominance still influences our own modern culture with its focus o­n the conquest of nature, of space, of our enemies. It is as if we have been conditioned by this powerful mythology to think o­nly in oppositional terms – victory or defeat – never in terms of dialogue and reconciliation.

Solar mythology is, above all, the story of the heroic individual. Its theme is the Promethean quest for freedom, justice, knowledge and power. It carries with it the human longing to reach higher, progress further, discover more. It is overwhelmingly male because the male psyche has been the dominant influence in many cultures over some 4000 years and it is the achievements and discoveries of exceptional men which have inspired other men. A strong sense of individuality and a focused ego can be acknowledged as the supreme achievement of the male psyche during this solar era. But the voice of women who were denied access to education, the priesthood and political power was silenced.

The danger of this solar phase is that the human mind, breaking away from its instinctive ground, and its relationship with nature and cosmos, begins to assimilate a god-like power to itself, seeing itself engaged in a great struggle to gain mastery of nature. The solar achievement of establishing a strong conscious ego was won at the expense of repressing whatever it perceived as threatening to it. The inner conflict was projected into the world as the drive for power and control over others, whether in the religious or political field.

The influence of solar mythology was to divide life into two halves: spirit and nature, light and dark, good and evil, mind and body, subject and object. These oppositions became fixed in our consciousness as an actual belief system…As time went  o­n religions took o­n the mantle of solar mythology in a struggle for supremacy and are tragically engaged in it to this day.

From this long historical process, it is possible to see that the belief system of scientific reductionism which has so powerfully influenced modern secular culture may be understood as the end-result of the long-standing dissociation between spirit and nature, mind and matter but, above all, the sundering within us of thinking and feeling, rational mind and instinctive soul – the conscious and unconscious aspects of our nature. It has concluded that the universe is indifferent to us, that we are the products of impersonal forces operating o­n inanimate matter. Consciousness arises from the physical brain. When we die, that is the end of us.

To sum up: over the four millennia that solar mythology became the dominant influence o­n world culture, we have achieved an extraordinary advance in scientific and technological skills and their application to improving the conditions of human life o­n this planet and a phenomenal expansion of the ability to express ourselves as individuals in myriad different fields of Endeavour. But at the same time, we have suffered a catastrophic loss of soul, a loss of the ancient instinctive awareness of the sacred interweaving of all aspects of life, a loss of the sense of participation in the life of nature and the invisible dimension of the cosmos, a loss of instinct and imagination…

This leaves the human heart lonely and afraid and the neglected territory of the soul a barren wasteland. The rage and despair of denied needs confront us as the enemies who seek to destroy us and whom we seek to destroy. We struggle to contain the effects of a dysfunctional way of thinking – believing that ever greater power and control will enable us to eradicate the evils we bring into being…

Beyond the present limits of our sight an immense field of consciousness interacts with our own, asking to be recognised by us, embraced by us. As this deep soul-impulse to recover what has been lost gathers momentum, the “marriage” of the emerging lunar values with the ruling solar o­nes is changing our perception of reality. If we can recover the ancient way of knowing in a modern context, without losing the priceless evolutionary attainment of a strong and focused ego, we could heal the fissure in our psyche and bring together many aspects of life that have been fragmented. In the words of D.H. Lawrence, “The great range of responses that have fallen dead in us have to come to life again.”

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Originally the liberal arts were seven in number. They were divided into the three-fold Trivium of Grammar, Logic, and Rhetoric, and the four-fold Quadrivium of Arithmetic, Geometry, Music, and Astronomy. These words mean, respectively, a three-way and a four-way crossroads, implying that these paths of knowledge are fundamentally interconnected — and, by extension, that all other paths can be found to intersect here, as well. The Trivium was the basis of elementary education (whence we probably get the word “trivial”): Grammar taught the craft of reading and writing; Logic, of careful reasoning; and Rhetoric, of effective communication. The Quadrivium was the basis of advanced education: Arithmetic taught the science of number; Geometry, of form; Music, of sound (and of “harmony” in the most general sense of the word — “number in motion”, as it was often put); Astronomy, of time (of “form in motion”). Moreover, from the very beginning, whether openly acknowledged or carefully alluded to, each of the Quadrivium sciences was accompanied by its complementary metaphysical art. Each dealt not o­nly with the outer structures, but also with the inner meanings of its discipline. Thus, Arithmetic included Arithmology, the understanding that numbers were not merely quantities, but also qualities (that “two”, for instance, is also “duality, polarity”); Geometry included what is nowadays called Geomancy, the understanding (in, for example, the design of temples or cathedrals, or in the graphic arts) that the spirit and the emotions can be affected in particular ways by particular forms; Astronomy included Astrology, the divination of the meanings of cycles of time; and Music included not o­nly the study of “practical theory”, of nomenclature and technique (e.g. “this is a minor third”, “this is the Mixolydian mode”), but also the study of “speculative theory”, of the meanings and influences of tones and intervals and scales.

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