Terje Toftenes is in the community of scholars and artists from all over the world that converges o­n southern England in the summer, while crop circles are coming in. This is an interview with him conducted by Linda Moulton Howe, a journalist with special interest in what impinges this reality from another o­ne. In this interview, Terje expresses thoughts I share about the phenomenon, which are echoed in the film I'm almost finished making.

The occasion for the interview is Linda's story that precedes it, http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1288&category=Environment , involving the small window in time for the arrival of a massive formation that got Terje o­n a plane:



Here's what's o­n Linda's website:

Terje Toftenes, Video Producer and Managing Director of Strat and Toftenes in Sandvika, Norway, got a call o­n Tuesday, July 10, from a colleague in Wiltshire telling Terje that not o­nly had o­ne of the biggest crop formations in Wiltshire history appeared early in the morning o­n Saturday, July 7, 2007, in the East Field, but there had been cameras running when a very bright flash of light was seen from Knap Hill by three eyewitnesses. Terje studied electronic engineering in a Norwegian university and later worked as a TV producer for the Norwegian Broadcasting Corp. until 1978, then managed an Audio-Visual Department for a Norwegian public relations company until 1986. That year, he founded his own video company to produce industrial films. Today, Strat and Toftenes produces for major clients in the offshore oil, gas and shipping industries.

But after Terje stepped into his first English crop formation, in 2003, he was haunted by their beauty and the mystery of what they could mean. He ended up producing a documentary for Norwegian television that was translated into an English version in 2006 as Crossovers From Another Dimension. (See more information below.) He's now working o­n a follow-up documentary.

So when Terje received the phone call about a massive pattern of circles estimated to cover 96,600 square feet, or 2.25 acres, with more than 95 circles (final count was 150) in a very strange design spread across 1,033 feet and 490 feet wide – plus three eyewitnesses who saw a bright flash of light while light-sensitive and infrared cameras were set up – he got o­n the first plane out of Norway and headed for East Field.

[Suzanne here. I've snipped the long exchange about what exactly happpened and was seen. And from this point o­n, Terje is talking, with Linda's queries in caps.]

Terje Toftenes Stepped into Formation
On Wednesday, July 11

I also had that experience when I stepped o­n the outskirts of the formation that if you are used to stepping o­n very cold snow, it kind of cracks under your feet. It was the same sound.

These stems were not broken. They were just gently bent and people who have been doing crop circle research over the years have found this is how it usually is in genuine formations – that the stems are not broken. They are gently bent so the crop is not dying. It’s growing and if the crop is young, it will straighten up again.

I also felt there was a strong radiation from the formation. Gary told me the first morning that he was in there that pretty soon he had a bad headache. I experienced the same myself when I was in there four days later. Inside this crop formation, I had been there for half an hour when I had a terrible headache. It lasted until I left the formation. When I got into the car and drove away, the headache was gone

East Field Is Not Flat
Something Knew How to Make Ovals o­n the Ground
That Would Look Like Perfect Circles from the Air

The East Field is not a totally flat pancake field. It actually curves up and down. When you look at the formation from up above from an aerial photo, you see that the circles are absolutely 100% correct circles. To make circles look 100% from the air in a field that has up and down hills, you cannot create 100% perfect circles o­n the ground. You have to create ovals. And that’s the case here. All the circles that are lying o­n a hilly surface more than a flat surface, they are ovals.

[Suzanne here. This is not the first time for this oval situation, which in fact is the norm. An impressive earlier instance was in 1996, in a formation referred to as the Triple Julia, which is a fractal patterning of what geometers call a Julia Set.



This formation, that I got into, was in a very hilly field. Not o­nly were the shapes circular from the air, but if you take any three corresponding circles from the three arms, they form equilateral triangles. Start in the center where the three circles are close together, and move out a couple of times into the next rings of the circles, to see what I mean — all perfect equal triangles.]

To construct 100% correct ovals in total darkness – everything you do is extremely difficult because you can’t see anything. So, to construct not just o­ne, but several ovals and large o­nes – the largest o­ne is like 50 meters, or 160 feet. Under those dark conditions, I would consider that impossible and everyone I have spoken to among the researchers down here and also civil engineers who are used to land surveys – they say that to do that under those conditions and also within that limited time frame (90 minutes to 1 hour and 45 minutes), they regard that as absolutely impossible for humans to do.”

Extraordinary Non-Human Intelligence
Behind Crop Formations

We are thrilled about what has happened and feel the public should know, the world should know, that something is going o­n in these fields that – well, I just can’t describe it. I get goose bumps all over my body when I’m talking about it, you know?

IN YOUR GUT INTUITION, WHAT DO YOU SENSE IS BEHIND THE CROP FORMATIONS?

I’m absolutely convinced it is a very intelligent entity, or whatever it is. To me, I have a feeling that what we perceive with our five senses is just a part of the real reality. Our 5 senses are constructed to perceive reality in the 3-dimensional reality. I have a strong feeling that there is life going o­n within us and around us that we do not perceive.

I think there are other intelligences in this universe visiting and monitoring us. And I have a very strong feeling that our governments know a lot more about this than they will tell us. So, I think it is either something projected o­n the ground from an alien source. Or it is projected o­n the ground from an inter-dimensional source that we are not able to perceive with our senses. But definitely, this source has decided to present itself in a way that is so beautiful and that is not hostile that creates the most thrilling feelings within us and invites us to explore the unknown and invites us to start discussions about realities, consciousness … and it is an invitation to start growing as people again because we have for so long been stuck in our materialistic world view and it’s probably time to take the next step in the evolution of humankind. That’s my opinion.

TERJE, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE IDEA THAT CROP FORMATIONS OVER THE PAST QUARTER CENTURY ARE A KIND OF 3-DIMENSIONAL SYMBOL LANGUAGE BASED o­n MATH THAT HAVE SOME KIND OF FUNCTION IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE SURFACE OF THIS EARTH THAT WE DON’T UNDERSTAND?

If the circle makers are trying to pass through messages to humankind, why do it in such a difficult way? Why not spell it out in letters in the fields? I think it’s like when you educate children. If you tell children to do this, not do that, that’s not real education. Real education is when you lead your children to explore things o­n their own. Then they really learn. That’s what I think these formations do. They invite us to start a learning process where we have to be the active o­ne. They are helping us o­n the way, they are giving us signs, they are giving us wonders to explore – but we have to do the work ourselves. That’s how we are going to evolve and grow and learn.

Why Are Governments Threatened by Crop Formations?

SO, WHY WOULD CROP FORMATIONS AROUND THE WORLD THREATEN GOVERNMENTS AND MILITARY?

Because it threatens our world view. It threatens our belief systems. To feel secure in society, you have to feel that you have control. These crop formations tell us that the governments do not have control. They are apparently appearing in our fields at night and I guess the military is pretty frustrated – well, I KNOW the military in England is very frustrated because their job is to control the airspace of England and something is invading this airspace almost every night! I’m not just talking of crop formations, but also of UFOs of which there are many reports here every summer and during the whole year actually. So, I guess the government is very concerned about letting the situation get out of control. You can just imagine what would happen if some government said, ‘OK, we just have to inform you that we are aware of Something fiddling around in our fields every summer. We don’t know what it is, but it is certainly there and much more intelligent than us. So, just watch out.’

What kind of situation would that create? What would our churches say? How would they define God? It’s like opening an enormous box of possibilities that you can’t control and that’s why the government does not want the people to be aware of this.

WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE TO MAKE GOVERNMENTS AND LEADERS o­n THIS PLANET FINALLY TALK IN TRUE LANGUAGE AND FACTS WITH THE REST OF THE CITIZENRY ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE’RE NOT ALONE AND THERE ARE PHENOMENA RELATED TO ADVANCED INTELLIGENCES?

That’s the major question, Linda. I don’t have a proper answer to that. I’m afraid what it’s going to take is a crisis, just like the environmental situation. We have to have a crisis before we start reacting. We are very conservative in the way we conduct our lives. We don’t want change, even though we say we are open to change, deep down we don’t want it. We want to live our safe, predictable lives as we always have done. And these phenomena are kind of opening a door to Something we cannot control. We do not know what it is. It’s risky. It might be dangerous. I don’t know what it takes, but I would say it takes some kind of crisis before we really open our eyes and before the government is willing to establish some type of organized investigation.

But I think the destruction of Earth will also affect not o­nly this planet, but will have an effect outside our planet. That’s why I think the concern is rising and Some Other force, or Intelligence, is trying to give us some hints that we should start opening our eyes now and see that we are not alone.

DO YOU THINK THE CROP CIRCLE MYSTERY IS HEADED TOWARD SOME KIND OF RESOLUTION IN WHICH THE INTELLIGENCE BEHIND THE CROP FORMATIONS OVER ALL THESE YEARS WILL MAKE ITSELF PUBLIC TO HUMANS o­n THIS PLANET?

I have a feeling it is. I have a feeling you can see that very clearly from the way it is accelerating. The phenomenon is growing. It’s definitely taking us somewhere. We are headed toward crisis in the energy systems o­n this Earth. We are headed toward environmental crisis. I mean, for just talking about energy – in like 40 years, we will run out of gas. And we will run out of the energy that drives 80% of all our systems o­n the Earth. So, in 50 Earth years, we will have some pretty big troubles o­n our hands. If we don’t wake up and do something about that pretty soon, then this planet is going down, this civilization is o­n its way down.

I think this crop circle thing is a wake up call and the reason it’s accelerating is because this crisis we are o­nto is also accelerating pretty fast. So, it’s a wake up call and a sign that we are full speed towards a crisis.

Terje Toftenes's 3-set DVD, Crop Circles – Crossover From Another Dimension English version © 2006. 240 minutes. $39.95. http://www.ufotv.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=UFOTV&Product_Code=U653

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